My dissusions board
1- In analyzing "Indian Camp", Philip Sipiora says that the style was direct and minimal. The Indian characters in the story did not have names; the story does not provide much detail about the setting to let the reader knows what is the name of places in the "Indian Camp" which refers to the details in the story that were not given. Nick was the main character in the story but Sipiora did not describe him; instead he started the story by Nick and his father entered the boat with a very plain style without giving any intro to the story or details who is Nick or his father and how the readers must keep reading to search in the text to any details that will lead them to know who are these characters; where do they live, how old are they, and if Nick has a mother or any siblings. "Sipiora" did not find an explanation of mentioning other characters such as “Uncle George” without giving any description to his role in the story and all was mentioned that he smokes, and he hates Indians due his action in the story because when the Indian woman bit him he replied "Damn Squaw bitch" which explains that first he did not respect the Indian woman and did not care about what she was going through. Also, the dialogue in the story was short and I did not feel Sipiora gave well explanation to the charterers in the story and details about them were too short. The style of the story was sensational. Nick witnessed birth and death and he learned throughout this experience a lot of things which explains why he was asking his father about life. Also, how cold-hearted the father was towards the Indian lady and how he did not care about her because she was screaming from pain due, he saw that happened before because he is a physician and he controlled the situation by staying calm. Furthermore, we knew about the Indians based on their actions the Indian lady was giving a birth and the father suicide, the reader did not know what they do for living, who are they, and what their names. The Plot of the story was very plain and straight forward about death and pain and how Nick will develop or growth throughout this experience to a different person which made him wonder and ask questions about life to his father what he witnessed. The story “Indian Camp” was written in a third-party point of view; the narrator drew a positive picture of Nick to the reader, which makes the readers sympathize with Nick. There is more than one theme in “Indian Camp” such as Nick’s development, the treatment of the Native Americans, and portrait of Indians. Sipiora, claims that the "Hemingway" was writing about Nick in a sympathetically way due he is young and how he is attached to his father. How Nick development throughout the story. There was a lot of actions in the story; such as how the Indians were treated in the story in a discrimination way, the death and birth, and how Nick said in the end of the story “I would never die” due his development from what he experienced in the story.
Second dissusion board
1-The first early expression I got when I was reading “Indian Camp” by Ernest Hemingway was an emotional sad feeling towards the woman who was giving a birth and the man's suicide. Also, how the Hemingway did not give names for the Native Americans characters. Secondly, the the relationship between the father and the son.
2-My observations on the narrative's settings was in a cold weather in a small Indian's village; because first they could not take the Indian woman to the hospital, and secondly, due a bad weather, so Nick's dad "the physician" was forced to do something immediately to save the baby's life. My personal experience that helped me to relate to the physical setting in the story especially in the boat due lack of tools/sources is what happened to me when I was in Italy with friends; we were in a boat and suddenly the boat stopped in the middle of the ocean and the guy who was driving the boat did not know English very well so it was hard to know what was going on. We were stuck there for five hours without having any idea what will happen to us. We did not no have any food, we could not contact anyone, and the weather was too humid.
3- I believe Nick's father was good because he did his best to teach his son about what was happening and Nick needed this lesson because from my perspective Nick's dad did that for his son's benefits in the future, so he can do his best to save someone's life no matter what the circumstances are.
4- Doing the right thing; Although, Nick's father was under pressure; he did what was require to save the woman's baby. Although, there was a lack of tools that he needed to help the woman giving a birth, but he was smart and calm and he used what he found and he succeed with it. I liked how calm the doctor was during all the circumstances that were surrounding him, and how he was explaining everything to Nick and teaching him without showing him that he is stressed or nervous about what was happening.
5- Hemingway portrays the Native Americans as inferior and he was unsympathetic because first he did not give names to them, and he called them the Indians. Also, Hemingway was ignoring that fact of showing any sort of respect towards the Indian lady in the story. When one of the characters in the story said a joke about her and one of the guys laughed without giving any respect towards her. Thus, the writer underestimated Native Americans especially the woman in the story. Finally, I think the reason why the husband chose to suicide because he was badly injured in his foot, and he did not want to live a life suffering from pain.
6- I believe that Nick learned that his father is the only person that he can depend on and where he can feel safe with. After how he saw how the man committed suicide, and he was wondering and asking his father about what death is. How does death feel like? and his conclusion was I "would never die" which means from my perspective that he will never kill himself and also he is protected by his father.
7-My experience about suicide and death can be related to Nick's experiences especially that I lived 4 years in Syria and I have experienced a lot of tragedy of people's death over there and one of them was a close friend of mine. He committed suicide because he lost all his family in an explosion, and he did not find any reason to continue living. I believe no matter what life difficult circumstances are we always must accept it and find a another reason to live and create something that is worth waking up the next day.
8- The elements of the plot for me as a reader was not expected especially how the writer combined death with birth. I believe that Indian Camp is a gruesome story because the way the writer related to an awful thing such as suicide with an amazing moment which is birth, and how the Native Americans were badly treated in the story. I believe Hemingway focused a lot on the main character Nick